Trump v Zelenskyy: the view from Ukraine – podcast | Ukraine

This weekend’s fractious Oval Workplace assembly between Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelenskyy had a lot of the world speaking. However what do Ukrainians make of the assembly, their president, and a attainable Trump-led peace deal?

The Guardian’s senior worldwide correspondent Luke Harding has been in Ukraine for a lot of the the final three years. He tells Helen Pidd that the majority Ukrainians are supportive of Zelenskyy’s method, are in no temper to carry an election, and are experiencing an identical sense of “us in opposition to the world” that they skilled in February 2022, at first of Russia’s invasion.

Becoming a member of a Black Sea boat patrol off the coast of Odesa, Harding explains what number of within the army don’t see their battle as being over and are in no temper to conform to any lack of territory. On the similar time, there’s a rising recognition that the US is a a lot much less dependable ally than Ukraine’s European neighbours and that substantial safety preparations might be wanted if there’s to be any lasting peace. In line with blogger and analyst Alex Kovzhun, European states are lastly beginning to realise that Ukraine’s battle is their battle and that this battle will solely actually finish in Moscow itself.

In the end, says Harding, the pessimism held by Trump about Ukraine’s place will not be one thing that many within the nation share.